Vaillant Arotherm Plus Heat Pump: The good, the bad and the ugly.

Friends, it’s been just over a year now since we had our 5 kW Vaillant Arotherm Plus heat pump installed.

The Good

In short, I love the heat pump: it is super quiet; uses low GWP propane as a working fluid; and can even heat water to 70 °C if I should ever desire.

And it is has worked well with a seasonal average COP (sCOP) of 3.6 in its first heating season during which the internal temperature of the house has been steady at ~21.5 °C 24/7. And we have lots of pleasantly hot hot water.

But, not everything is good. And this article is about the things that are seriously bad and the things that are downright ugly.

The Bad

There is no User Manual! There is lots of excellent engineering documentation and installation instructions, but I personally would appreciate a relatively short document that explained how to adjust various aspects of the heat pump.

Click for a larger version. Engineering documentation for the Vaillant Heat Pump. But no user manual.

For example, if one uses a thermostat, it is relatively easy to programme a setback period overnight where the temperature is lower. But it would nonetheless be nice to have instructions.

But if you switch to using weather compensation instead of a thermostat? There is no explanation of how the weather compensation interacts – if it all – with the thermostat setting. And the settings are four or five layers down in a menu system that is labrythine in its obscurity. A manual would be helpful.

The SensoComfort controller looks great: sleek and black. But using it is a nightmare. Each time one attempts to achieve a particular task one has to decide whether it should be looked for under a variety of confusing menu headings:

  • Installation
  • Basic System Diagram Configuration
  • HP control module configuration
  • Heat Pump 1
  • HP control module
  • Circuit 1
  • House
  • Domestic Hot Water

There is no logic to this and it’s just guesswork every time because there is no manual!

The Ugly

30 May 2023: See also my review of the update app here.

The Vaillant SensoAPP does just about have some basic functionality.

For example, it allows one to set a period of absence or trigger a boost to the domestic hot water. However, it frequently fails to do even these basic tasks, commonly reporting a variety of errors.

But the one thing I would like the App to do would be tell me the Coefficient of Performance (COP) of the heat pump. The COP tells the owner or an engineer, how well the heat pump is working.

The COP is the ratio of the amount of heat delivered to the house, to the amount of electrical energy used to operate the pump. Typically COP lies in the range 2 (poor) to 5 (outstanding) and this provides the most significant measure of a heat pump’s performance.

Ideally, the App would report the COP for hot water and for space heating separately. But actually there is just nothing!

In my opinion it is scandalous that the App does not report the COP.

There are signs that the App should be able to show the COP, but then using the available data it gives erroneous answers. In short, when it comes to monitoring heat pump performance, it is literaly useless.

Let me explain.

The App offers no direct readout of COP– which is disappointing – but the ‘Information’ screen on the SensoAPP appears to offer the opportunity to see the electrical consumption and the thermal output (called the ‘environmental yield’) for both space heating and domestic hot water.

Click image for a larger version. The information page on the Vaillant sensoApp looks like it should have all the information one needs to calculate the COP.

Using these data it should be possible to evaluate the COP. Sadly this is not the case.

In an attempt to do this I downloaded the weekly data for the electrical consumption and checked it against the completely independent MMSP monitoring system I have installed.

The weekly consumption information screen for DHW looks like the figure below. It is highly suspicious to me that the data appear to be exactly whole numbers of kWh every day – but the screen tells me that I used 8 kWh of electricity that week for domestic hot water, and that is the figure I recorded.

Click on the figure for a larger version. The electrical consumption for domestic hot water in Week 41 of 2022 as reported by the Vaillant sensoApp. Notice that the daily consumptions are all exact numbers of kWh.

My weekly MMSP data runs Saturday to Friday while the Vaillant data runs Sunday to Saturday, so we might not expect the data to be identical, but the data (below) are similar. I was hopeful when I saw this correspondence.

Click on the figure for a larger version. The blue curve shows the weekly electrical consumption (kWh/day) as self-reported by the Vaillant App. The red curve shows the same quantity as measured by an independent monitoring system.

Over the 61 weeks since installation the Vaillant reported consumption of 2,147 kWh – 4.3% less than the MMSP system. Not great agreement.

However, if one looks at the thermal data – the environmental yield – the data are both dodgy and missing.

How can they be both dodgy AND missing? As the screen grab below shows, the graph suggest the environmental yield is an exact whole number of kWh every day – something which is very unlikely. This makes the data seem dodgy to me.

But in this case we can also add up the daily yield very easily – it comes to 8 kWh that week. However the App does not do that summation for me – it simply states that the total heating over the entire installation time is 721 kWh. The weekly data are just missing!

Click on the figure for a larger version. The environmental yield for domestic hot water in Week 41 of 2022 as reported by the Vaillant sensoApp. Notice that the daily yields are all exact numbers of kWh.

While I can add up the data in the bar chart above quite easily, this not possible for other screens such as that below – which again simply states the total yield over the entire installation period.

Click on the figure for a larger version. The environmental yield for space heating in Week 41 of 2022 as reported by the Vaillant sensoApp. Notice that the daily yields are all exact numbers of kWh.

This means that it is impossible to work out the COP.

I did try working out the overall COP since installation, but the results were not believable. The Vaillant self-reported average COP is 2.0 whereas the MMSP monitoring system indicates an answer closer to 3.51 .

The good, the bad and the ugly

Summarising, the heat pump is fantastic, and works well.

But I only know that because I have an independent monitoring system.

If I didn’t have independent monitoring I would literally have no idea how well the heat pump was working.

And there has been no improvement or new software updates in the last year

Overall, this is shockingly bad.

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20 Responses to “Vaillant Arotherm Plus Heat Pump: The good, the bad and the ugly.”

  1. Simon Duane Says:

    Even if all those exact integer values of kWh are “only” incompetent use of numerical rounding, this is a good reminder of one of the advantages of open source (ideally free-as-in-freedom) software over proprietary software.
    A fine example of relevance here is https://openenergymonitor.org/

  2. georgeheywood Says:

    An excellent summary of the issues. Thank you. Hopefully someone from Vaillant is reading this!

  3. Robin Hill Says:

    I fully sympathise with your difficulties regarding the seemingly deliberate obscuring of operational arrangements of ASHPs for their users. I found myself nodding along as I started reading as it mirrors my own position. Your kit is of recent design and admittedly my NIBE is of 10 year vintage so obviously little has changed. Why having to call an engineer to change settings defies understanding.

  4. Ismail Myzyri Says:

    I have a Vaillant heat pump and I feel like I need to get a college degree to learn how to use it. This is crap!. Can it not be as simple as setting the desired temperature and daysonly?!?!?!. Why do I need to go through crappy terms as “Flow temp” “set back” “bivalent value” heating curve” etc. Why do I need to call an technician every time I need to change the system from heating to cooling mode?

    • protonsforbreakfast Says:

      Ismail, I whole heartedly agree with you. It does seem to be a good heat pump from a mechanical engineering perspective, but the software, the app and the control interface are abysmal.

      If you have any specific questions, do ask – I might have figured it out!

      M

      • Ismail Myzyri Says:

        Thanks so much for your reply. Can you help me walk through the steps of changing the system mode from cooling to heating? I don’t use this system for hot water or as they call it “domestic hot water”. I have two controllers in the system and I have no idea which one has priority over the other or are they redundant to each other.

  5. protonsforbreakfast Says:

    Ismail can you send me a picture of the ‘two controllers’. I think I know what you mean but it would be easy to talk at crossed purposes.

    house@depodesta.net

    All the best

    Michael

  6. Nothanks Says:

    You need to add electrical consumption to environmental yield to get the total heat input to the building, then divide this by your electrical input to get COP. Your Vaillant and external monitoring should more closely match then.

    I think you can get proper numbers from the controller rather than the app.

    • protonsforbreakfast Says:

      Dear Nothings, Good Evening,

      Thanks, but I understand how to estimate COP from the environmental yield. My experience is that the Vaillant monitoring is just not very accurate. Why? It doesn’t include a heat meter and so estimates heat output from other operating parameters, in my case, not very well.

      I reviewed the updated App and the results are the same:

      The MyVaillant App: a review

      All the best

      Michael

  7. Nick Says:

    I share your frustration with products like heat pumps that have poor controls and monitoring.
    Might be worth you having a look at https://www.homelyenergy.com/ (recently discussed by Heat Geek at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjOCzbvSaws)

    • protonsforbreakfast Says:

      Nick

      Good Evening. I just leave the heat pump running 24/7 and it seems to sort itself out. Thanks fully the app has improved significantly, but the efficiency estimates are still poor. Here’s a more recent article on the App.

      The MyVaillant App: a review

      All the best

      Michael

  8. TomaszW Says:

    New MYVAILLANT app has now been released although transition from the old app to the new one is via invitation only at the moment. Switching over from the old app will take some time. But the demo looks great so far. Did you tried the new app yet?

  9. Kieran Says:

    Hi,
    I recent also had a Vaillant Arotherm plus but unfortunately didn’t realise before installation that the SensoComfort control doesn’t allow for access to an app without an additional internet gateway. After a bit of research this looks fairly simple to add to the system but there appears to be 2 options available the sensoNet and the MyVaillant Connect. Do you know if both are suitable or have a recommendation of one over the other?

    Thanks,
    Kieran

    • protonsforbreakfast Says:

      Kieran, Good Evening.

      Sorry for the delayed response. Sadly, I can’t help. When my system was installed I had no idea what all the bits did, and they all seemed to have somewhat similar names.

      Regarding the App, I think the myVAILLANT app is the more modern. I did a later review of the App and it is a definite improvement.

      The MyVaillant App: a review

      Best wishes

      Michael

  10. vlp2024 Says:

    With great regret we now realising what a mistake we did to purchase Vaillant arotherm plus. this is not just nightmare to run, it is literally piece of complete waste of money. we could not even get it started with DHW and floor heating, runs just DHW and thats it, but proudly after some time reports thermostat error. i thought to get it running with hydraulic station, VRC720, and AI. but looks like needed VR71, for just one zone? anyway, it will do all tests with great success and when restarts, comes up with F.1100 error. wow, what a pleasure. stupid engineering production with no valid logic.

    • protonsforbreakfast Says:

      Dear Vlp2024,

      Good Afternoon. First of all let me express my sympathy for you. That’s sounds really frustrating and demoralising. I know that the heat pump itself is capable of performing well, so there must be some kind of problem with the installation.

      What part of the country are you in?
      What does your installer say about this?

      All the best

      Michael

    • vlp2024 Says:

      dear Michael,
      i live in france. installed this crap by myself. system is from tech point of view extremly simple: one heat exchange VWZ MWT 150, floor heating, now got VR71, VRC720, VWZ MEH 97 and DHW cylinder. all connected using correct bus cable, per diagram. can’t get rid of F.1100 and now getting HP control module fault. have not even used it for 1 day. i had before Wolf gas boiler, it was working like a swiss watch. now this modern crap. getting rid of f.1100 not possible, purging, pressure, etc etc did not help. HP control module fault is a new thing. Do you know where HP control module is and if it is possible to replace? many thanks in advance

      • protonsforbreakfast Says:

        Dear vlp2024, I am so sorry to hear that you are having trouble with your Arotherm Plus installation. I am afraid do not have teh technical knowledge to help identify the fault. Personally I would ring up Vaillant and ask for help – they were very helpful to me on other matters.

        Alternatively, search around on Twitter/Facebook to find installers who might be able to offer tips.

        In any case: I do hope this resolves itself soon.

        Best wishes” M

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